tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15078041.post113125563783332308..comments2024-02-05T17:07:30.562+08:00Comments on Afdlin Shauki : Inside My Head: THE WAY FORWARD!Cipkodokhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16718830518349767538noreply@blogger.comBlogger67125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15078041.post-1132852712000077702005-11-25T01:18:00.000+08:002005-11-25T01:18:00.000+08:00i wish i could stand up and shout now...!!!!i tota...i wish i could stand up and shout now...!!!!<BR/><BR/>i totally but agree with everything u said about lembaga penapis filem... i mean... what the hell are they censoring anyway? and from whom? and for what blardy reason??? <BR/><BR/>the worst mistake those people ion censorship board ever make - they assume that other people have the same mentality as they do.<BR/><BR/>if i chose to beleive that hantu and puntianak exist after watching PHSM, so what? <BR/><BR/>saje je lepas geram..... jgn marah.... mari kita ramai2 makan kobis ni...Najwa Aimanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00137578442276534388noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15078041.post-1132069417620214412005-11-15T23:43:00.000+08:002005-11-15T23:43:00.000+08:00afdlin dude,whenever i watched mainstream malay mo...afdlin dude,<BR/>whenever i watched mainstream malay movies, i always feel there's lack of sincererity...from the direction to the acting to the dialog..err..basically the whole production..and for most part, they do not even represent actual society (think cheesy dialog with wierd accents). these movies are weak at telling a story...how many of us could fully comprehend what "Embun" or "Paloh" are trying to tell??.. <BR/>thank god for indies...otherwise there's very little to look forward to as far as the movie industry is concern..Lepathttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14400918816331551603noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15078041.post-1131898007950548882005-11-14T00:06:00.000+08:002005-11-14T00:06:00.000+08:00AFDLININ CHINESE SAID "ADD OIL". One more vote for...AFDLIN<BR/><BR/>IN CHINESE SAID "ADD OIL". One more vote for u babe ! ..<BR/>dont give up as we( young generation of Malaysia) are now very very thirsty n hungry for malaysian movie! Hoping n wishing to watch our own movie too..!<BR/><BR/>KEEP IT UP ~Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15078041.post-1131812537677678822005-11-13T00:22:00.000+08:002005-11-13T00:22:00.000+08:00Jaja/Zaza,just becos it is hard to make a film doe...Jaja/Zaza,<BR/><BR/>just becos it is hard to make a film doesn't mean we cannot criticise a bad film or bad director. we should, but we should do it constructively. then everyone can learn a thing or two. but u know, ppl must also be able to accept criticism.<BR/><BR/>what you have just said, that we should not "perlekehkan" any filmmaker, is akin to that cop-out argument that some ppl use when they're cornered: "it's easy for you to criticise. why don't you try and make a film and see how difficult it is?"<BR/><BR/>for me, that kind of argument is just ridiculous. it means that we cannot criticise, say, George Bush, becos we have never been president of a country ourselves.<BR/><BR/>you know, the most influential directors of the French New Wave were themselves film critics for Cahiers du Cinema before they became world-renowned filmmakers themselves. look at Jean-Luc Godard, he's changed the rules of filmmaking forever. and what was he before? a film critic.Allan Koay 郭少樺https://www.blogger.com/profile/06520221332029467739noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15078041.post-1131768935334217212005-11-12T12:15:00.000+08:002005-11-12T12:15:00.000+08:00I wonder where did the stigma of bad malaysian mov...I wonder where did the stigma of bad malaysian movies started? who actually started the ball rolling? If malaysian's movies are so bad, why was it even released in the first place? Do we not have a test group for this purposes? If the reason/excuse is no budget, well u dont need a lot of budget to make a good movie. Think about movies that are box offices but was done wit a very low budget. I guess there will never be pleasing anybody esp in this issue. Just be glad that we are malaysians however we should think outside the box more and see the view in a bigger picture.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15078041.post-1131717683801438912005-11-11T22:01:00.000+08:002005-11-11T22:01:00.000+08:00bro afdlinyeah prolly i hafta recorrect what i sai...bro afdlin<BR/><BR/>yeah prolly i hafta recorrect what i said. technically, he's not even good. <BR/><BR/>it's jest dat in the level of <B>our</B> film makers, his work are not the worst, dat's wat i really thought. yeah but coming to think of it, not so many of our bigtime film makers are SO good anyway, so he does sux.<BR/><BR/>am currently learning to <I>bikin filem</I> and i know hands-on that its not easy. prolly my current tasks are not even 20% as big as the tasks of film makers, but this hardship thought me so many things; including putting up with the sequences of being critique, and my work wont get approved, or even while creating my storyline/storyboard, plainly i jest got stuck and dunno where to go. so when there are people who 'perlekehkan' kerja kerja pembikinan filem ini, i feel so sickly. i think u know what i mean, chip kodok.<BR/><BR/>perlekehkan here, does include wat the CB is doing. and as for Prof M Razak, i really didnt know he didnt master in film making, only in film marketing. no wonder sooo streotypical. bikin filem boleh jual.<BR/><BR/>btw i read the current entry (the one after this) - for dat entry - prolly some CB members already read our comments. heh. jest hope. or do they even know how to surf the net?-zaza:o:binxz-https://www.blogger.com/profile/10277005102350436687noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15078041.post-1131616882635962022005-11-10T18:01:00.000+08:002005-11-10T18:01:00.000+08:00Patutnya ada No. 55. JANGAN KENCING.. [Berak, impo...Patutnya ada No. 5<BR/><BR/>5. JANGAN KENCING.. [Berak, impossible la]<BR/><BR/>ahaks²...ahak²adminhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01012104344691165908noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15078041.post-1131613097375489662005-11-10T16:58:00.000+08:002005-11-10T16:58:00.000+08:00What you have said were all true.As long as the ce...What you have said were all true.<BR/><BR/>As long as the censorship standard is not set, we are all doomed to support the pirates.<BR/><BR/>Kill me if you have to but I will choose death over watching a censored movie.<BR/><BR/>Or we will remain recycling all the movie ideas because we cannot breakthrough.<BR/><BR/>Or by the way, I am just lucky.Vladhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08799650606557431374noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15078041.post-1131593971684488522005-11-10T11:39:00.000+08:002005-11-10T11:39:00.000+08:00Assalamualaikum,Deep apology for menyampuk, was on...Assalamualaikum,<BR/>Deep apology for menyampuk, was only commenting on this post and i'll try not to get lost next time on the discussion.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15078041.post-1131580966222772252005-11-10T08:02:00.000+08:002005-11-10T08:02:00.000+08:00thats the one thing that has always frustrated me,...thats the one thing that has always frustrated me, that Malaysians never want to open their mouths and say whats really on their minds all becos they are afraid of offending other people.<BR/><BR/>the spirit of debate and discussion has been killed many times by this. <BR/><BR/>but i believe you don't have to worry about offending anyone as long as you say it in a civil manner. of course, there is a fine line between being opinionated and speaking your mind, and being just plain rude and obnoxious. but as long as we realise where those boundaries lie (such as being respectful to others' religion, beliefs, culture, etc, and allowing them the right to THEIR opinion), i don't think we have to worry about offending anyone.<BR/><BR/>my honest opinion.Allan Koay 郭少樺https://www.blogger.com/profile/06520221332029467739noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15078041.post-1131565922814398892005-11-10T03:52:00.000+08:002005-11-10T03:52:00.000+08:00Syahrulfikri,I completely agree with you that it's...Syahrulfikri,<BR/><BR/>I completely agree with you that it's not cool to blame others but i didn't blame them for doing the film. i blame myself for taking this long to stand up and say something about what's wrong with the film industry. The very reason i entered this film industry was because i thought that someone should make better films. So if i didn't do something when i know i am capable then it would be my fault. BUT my advise to you is that just so that you don't get lost in this discussion...<BR/><BR/>YOU HAVE TO READ and say assalammualaikum first, before you make comments about what we are talking about. When i talked about the mami jarums it was in the context of the strain of thought that we were discussing. SO PLEASE DON'T JUST MENYAMPUK in the middle because it is very annoying.<BR/><BR/>I am glad if u thought A-ha was crap. Then maybe you you could tell me what was wrong with it, so, me and harith could know what to fix. To me, it was what it was and it achieved what it had to do and i'm sure, the prof and datuk yusoff would then say the same about their product. Those films were not made for international consumption but pretty much to hone in to the local malay mass audience's demands.<BR/><BR/>BUT We are here to talk about how to take the MALAYSIAN film industry into the next level, ie win back the market share from the Hollywood machine and brand our films so that it is a reflection of the time that we live in int this country. PLUS make Malaysia a bigger player in the world film industry.<BR/><BR/>Please don't assume that i am just being vindictive and spiteful for no reason, for that i resent very much. I discuss with passion because this is my passion. I am still learning to be a better film maker but i believe i do know good cinema when i see it.<BR/><BR/>We have discussed the Iranian situation, their CB is worse but the rules are clear and CONSISTENT, ours is not. We never say we cannot make good films with censorship, it's just that the stories that we want to tell will be limited by the censorship. Wanna know HOW consistency affects us filmmakers.....<BR/><BR/>READ PREVIOUS POSTS AND COMMENTS!<BR/><BR/>Do i think Mami Jarum and SEMBILU was CRAP ....YES I DO! as some people would say BULI was crap. AND it is ok to me. BULI IS IMPERFECT! AND I HAVE OPENLY ADMITTED IT TO MANY OF MY FRIENDS AND FELLOW FILMMAKERS. (i will reveal my buli experience on the blog soon)<BR/><BR/>And ZAZA if you watch "i know what you did last raya" then you will see how technically inept the prof is, or maybe he is capable, but just doen't care since he feels that the people doesn't know any better. But again this is just my opinion.<BR/><BR/>The problem with malaysians are we don't want to say it out in the open because nak jaga hati orang, so the ORANG will never know what mistakes, if any, that he had made - so off course, he cannot rectify those mistakes.<BR/>I have an opinion and i will use it. But i use it in the proper context and only if it will get results.<BR/><BR/>EMPOWER THE MINDFUL<BR/><BR/>AFDLINCipkodokhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16718830518349767538noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15078041.post-1131562334034072602005-11-10T02:52:00.000+08:002005-11-10T02:52:00.000+08:00Uh-oh. Hehe.Not to directing my post to anyone, my...Uh-oh. Hehe.<BR/><BR/>Not to directing my post to anyone, my main intention was, 'Message Delivered' and 'Message Acknowledged'. Either to educate, or propagandism, there are messages to be delivered. There's always something to be told. Viewers will just acknowledge the message and consume it.<BR/><BR/>Some people may not like questions because u'll start to think. For those who are so lazy to squeeze their brain then skip this post. I have a lot of questions for me actually to ponder.<BR/><BR/>What's the point of a movie if it's pointless? No message? It'll be like watching a movie, which is in the end, u asked urself, what was that? Why don't I get the message, even though the filmmaker maybe intended to deliver messages?<BR/><BR/>I love comedy movies too but why can't we have something like The Hitch? (betul ke tajuk dia?)<BR/><BR/>I've a friend who's dying to watch one of the slapstick movies. He said, he liked the movie because he wants to relax and laugh so he prefer a movie which doesn't need him to think a lot.<BR/><BR/>Do malaysians love slapsticks? Was it the people who love slapsticks or the moviemakers who lokked down on the malaysian movie viewers to such a very low standard, in terms of thinking and consuming the movies?<BR/><BR/>What are actually the key factors of the viewers coming over to the cinema? Is it the promotion? Or the movie itself? Or the actors/actresses? Or the pengarah? Or how controversial? <BR/><BR/>How about the exposures? Do the slapstick movies lover has ever been exposed to a non-slapstick comedy? <BR/><BR/>Hmm..<BR/><BR/>Why i hardly see chinese people watch malay movies in the cinema, but malays do watch chinese movies (don't tell me u don't watch kungfu hustle) and hindustan movies also?<BR/><BR/>So...<BR/><BR/>Is it the viewers or the moviemakers?Izham Miyakehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01125855234743477474noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15078041.post-1131549704092098482005-11-09T23:21:00.000+08:002005-11-09T23:21:00.000+08:00holy jumping hippo's batman! that is one of the be...holy jumping hippo's batman! that is one of the best entry so far froggy...<BR/><BR/>i admire your talent and your vision. be yourself that's funny, and stop this mainstream bull that you sometimes potray - that is not funny and just ain't afdlin.<BR/><BR/>i think between you and yasmin a great movie can be made and a story be told.<BR/><BR/>that is what we tend to lack in our movies - a story.<BR/><BR/>lame slapsticks will only get us so far, the rest needs a good story. as for p. ramlee i am one of his biggest fan but we have the luxury of watching his lifetime work from beginning to end. his early movies wasn't that great but he improvised and evolved much as you will too i am sure. i look forward to what afdlin has in store for us down the road - experiment, take risk and never grow up bro.<BR/><BR/>p/s<BR/><BR/>selamat hari rayeeeeeeeee......Zedhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02166228005092311437noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15078041.post-1131549481242551592005-11-09T23:18:00.000+08:002005-11-09T23:18:00.000+08:00What a rousing and stirring posts! I feel my heart...What a rousing and stirring posts! I feel my heart beat and bleed with the blood of Malaysia<BR/><BR/>Besides censorship, we need an audience - the people of Malaysia to take off their racial and ideological blinkers to watch, laugh, cry and think over Malaysian films. Sepet is groundbreaking in appealing across all walks of life (not since P.Ramlee), and Gol dan Gincu builds upon that, and may there be many more films to come. <BR/><BR/>Although personally I feel that the majority of Malaysian films so far have not attain international standing yet, I believe we are non the right track, and whatever shortcomings there are right now marks a new dawn for Malaysian films, even as other Asian national cinemas also had similar humble and fumblng beginnings, and from there the sky is no limit to what we can achieve...<BR/><BR/>Semoga filem Malaysia menjayakan visi satu Malaysia untuk semua orand Malaysia!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15078041.post-1131537042906740452005-11-09T19:50:00.000+08:002005-11-09T19:50:00.000+08:00look at it this way.back then, we could show almos...look at it this way.<BR/><BR/>back then, we could show almost naked women, teacher sleeping in class, berkemban, hantu and jembalang, black magic, mythical creatures, kissing.<BR/><BR/>now, we cannot show kissing, no nudity, no heavy breathing, no killing, no hantu except in dreams, no teacher throwing duster, etc etc.<BR/><BR/>are we better off now? is the crime rate lower? are kids more sopan nowadays? are there no more abandoned babies in the tong sampah? less murders? less robberies? less lumba haram? etc?Allan Koay 郭少樺https://www.blogger.com/profile/06520221332029467739noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15078041.post-1131529426181088042005-11-09T17:43:00.000+08:002005-11-09T17:43:00.000+08:00So i ask you this, ARE YOU MALAYSIAN?....OR ...ARE...So i ask you this, ARE YOU MALAYSIAN?....OR ...ARE YOU JUST LUCKY? <BR/><BR/>Both.<BR/><BR/>I had been "educated" by Lembaga Penapis Filem Negara therefore I'm a Malaysian.<BR/><BR/>heh heh!Bukan Sepethttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13651324282976557697noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15078041.post-1131526471796768602005-11-09T16:54:00.000+08:002005-11-09T16:54:00.000+08:00visitor :: ok ok he SUX, u're right.bro izham :: t...visitor :: ok ok he SUX, u're right.<BR/><BR/>bro izham :: those storylines can be found in some indie movies. and SePet did portray gansterism, tho it's jest a small portion of the whole film. SePet ROCKS!<BR/><BR/>visitor and abg izham :: i agree with u guys on both points. make film if u haf sumthing to say - yup. make film to educate - to certain extend yeah why not? it wouldnt be 'propagandism' when the films are depicted with naturalism (and naturalism is what we dun always get in Malaysian films). and it also depends on what kinda issue u wanna 'educate' the viewers, because to me, films does have an impact to our everyday life, it could even set a trend or even culture, so it is somehow educative, in a way. issues like we should berbahasa sopan 24 hours is so lame tho, and that is somewhat a propaganda.<BR/><BR/>this is totally off topic but...<BR/>(no offense gomen staffs)<BR/>mesyuarat mesyuarat mesyuarat 9 to 5, mesyuarat ada makan makan... maybe dat's how the gomen people <I>retain</I> their mindset :op-zaza:o:binxz-https://www.blogger.com/profile/10277005102350436687noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15078041.post-1131525073905997872005-11-09T16:31:00.000+08:002005-11-09T16:31:00.000+08:00Mr afdlin, u, sir, have my full support. i agree o...Mr afdlin, u, sir, have my full support. i agree on the whole, double standards issue. Apsal la diorg concern sgt dgn imej guru "tercemar" tu? Entah2, guru2 sendiri kalo tengok, diorg akan ketawa, sbb diorg pun pernah buat..after losing their cool with irritating students. And u can even point out, masa cerita P. Ramlee dulu, cikgu dia siap tido dalam kelas lagi.. takde pulak nak menjatuhkan imej guru or whatsoever..nak buat perbandingan pun boleh, u know macam..kalau kuiz raya kat tv3 tu (or whatever quiz in d radio, etc)..dia bagi soalan2, tp in the end, dia mmg nak bagi org yg menjawap tu menang. ni lpf, bg guideline itu ini, mcm in the end, tak nak bagi org buat filem. at least not the provocative, thinking, type of films. nak citer slapstik bodooo jiwang2 karat jugaaakkk... sigh. so.. anyway, thanks for ur time, n if u read this, kalau rajin tu.. masuk la my website eh.. hehe. bangga la kalau afdlin syauki masuk my website! chow! tarakucha.comAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15078041.post-1131523749695469072005-11-09T16:09:00.000+08:002005-11-09T16:09:00.000+08:00Being a was-engineer, now-business person and alwa...Being a was-engineer, now-business person and always an artist, I find that there are some truth in what Webber says, and that, like what the kodok master has also implied, that if it does not happen in your own territory, it does not conclude in any manner, it also does not happen in others. That said, engineering may be art to some and pure logic and kick ass analysis to make sure the bridge you're driving on doesn't collapse on you, or the car you're driving in doesn't disintegrate in the rain etc.<BR/><BR/>You see, before reading the thoughts of the very few Malaysian on this blog, I was one of them who feels that our beloved tgvs and gscs are saturated with one genre films, and I always get so upset that the films my friends and family and I, appreciate does not make it big at the box office. Then again, we rarely go out to the movies anyway. But can you blame us when before the likes of our beloved chief, yasmin and the sorts, we felt as if we were cheated out of our pockets whenever we left the cinemas. But, there were more of them, who left with us who wanted to watch those movies repeatedly, while anxious to catch the next sequels. Some film makers will make film to cash in at the box office. Some film makers make films to tell stories close to their hearts, and in what the firmly beleive in, they hope the can make it big, but the can only hope. The understand the cinema goers' trends, but the still hope. Some gets frustrated and find reasons to blame - censorship board, education level, Associate Professors, Mawi - whatever else they can think of. The fact that, those who appreciates, appreciates. (I suddenly realize that after much typing, I've not touched anything on the CB topic directly, hmmm...)<BR/><BR/>Agree with the few who mentioned either direct or indirectly, that even the Iranians can come out with some really good films that really leave impact all within their CB restrictions. Behold their creativity, their passion, the story.<BR/><BR/>I agree with the kodok chip that the CB should be more consistent, but to be more relaxed, i think seriously think that those people should be given some credits for trying to protect some Malaysians, yes some Malaysians, be them "lucky" or "patrioticly" Malaysians, maybe not Malaysians like you and me, but like some of those who are much influenced by movies and tvs. I don't know about you people, but I blame Hollywood too, if not banyak, sikit, for the decline in our once sopan santun, budi bahasa moral values, divorce rates, crimes - they're getting more hi-tech, and more intelligently planned. Now with the likes of CSIs (I'm a big fan by the way, who watches in worry)these crimes shall be more organized, planned and conducted. Even if you have ratings, when the parents are out, the kids still watch. There must be some form of control. <BR/><BR/>I understand your vision, I assure you, I respect that, and I admire that in you, and I applaude your cause. I too feel it's time to bring the Malaysian movie standard to a higher level, to tell the stories of what really is Malaysia.<BR/><BR/>But in some parts, Malaysian loves slapstics jokes, Scenarios and the sorts, because in some parts, they are like that. Mami Jarums still exists, and cerita cinta like those of Sembilus, Kuliah Cinta, Cinta Colestrol - although banyak yang dah ditambah2 bagi hollywood+bollywood sikit, exists. And don't we, watch those we can relate to and are close to our heart.<BR/><BR/>Wow, that's a lot of two cents.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15078041.post-1131519382266745252005-11-09T14:56:00.000+08:002005-11-09T14:56:00.000+08:00afdlin,i agree with most of what you say about cen...afdlin,<BR/><BR/>i agree with most of what you say about censorship. what's happening now smacks of <EM>animal farm</EM> and <EM>1984</EM>.<BR/><BR/>power to the people bro.Oreoshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06274945174736073448noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15078041.post-1131514315157868082005-11-09T13:31:00.000+08:002005-11-09T13:31:00.000+08:00its great how u feel the need to change the mindse...its great how u feel the need to change the mindset of our people thru our movies and cinema, i really support u in your vision. But blaming the CB, SENARIOs and MAMIJARUMs to me is truly unhealthy Malaysian mentality itself. Blaming others is so uncool, bro... sorry but atleast u can blame A-HA too in tht sense. This i notice, we keep saying bad things to other local filmakers which are not so arty or in the same level we think we are.<BR/><BR/>In the CB matter, i do agree we need more young fresh mind in the board, (maybe u shld try to apply) but again blaming wont do us any good. There's few other countries where the CB are more strict and they produce lotsa of world recognition film such as the Iranians, Children of Heaven. It shows that if we have the creativity, we will produce a good storytelling film no matter what's the boundaries. and if not no matter wht, it will still be crap. Rite?<BR/><BR/>Again, sorry. <BR/>I'm only a Lucky Malaysian.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15078041.post-1131504918339324692005-11-09T10:55:00.000+08:002005-11-09T10:55:00.000+08:00i forgot to put my signature again ... the above p...i forgot to put my signature again ... <BR/><BR/>the above post is from ...<BR/><BR/>WebberAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15078041.post-1131504880194801752005-11-09T10:54:00.000+08:002005-11-09T10:54:00.000+08:00kodok groupie, like i said ... it's all up to wha...kodok groupie,<BR/> like i said ... it's all up to what your experience is telling you. Some of the engineers on this board feel that engineering and art are two totally different thing. I see engineering and art as one of the same.<BR/><BR/> you feel that engineering is all about logic and filmmaking is about passion and art. I dont see it the way you do. Filmmaking is to engineering is as much as what engineering is to filmmaking. We have structures, we have assumptions, we have reasons and we have ideas ... to name a few. So in actuality, i was implying that engineering is as par as film"eering" hence, uplifting the engineering profession. <BR/> <BR/>I have friends, who are engineers in profession, that feels that we hardly use any of what we learn in school. I got one engineer who said to me that he only used 10% of what he learn on his job. So he has a different view on what it needs to be an engineer.<BR/><BR/>I on the other hand, feels that im using at least 2/3 of what i learn in school. I spent most of my college years on extra-curicular activities rather than hitting the books. So you're most definitely going to have 2 different views on being an engineer or what engineering is, if you have one kid with his books, and one kid with his engineering project.<BR/><BR/>if you think engineering is all logic and art ... you ... most likely never had the opportunity to do any risk assessment for a project. If you're an engineer, trying making one for any type of project, and let me know if it's not 99% art and 1% engineering. <BR/><BR/>Go figure ...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15078041.post-1131502006891385782005-11-09T10:06:00.000+08:002005-11-09T10:06:00.000+08:00i take a different view of what you said, Izham.i ...i take a different view of what you said, Izham.<BR/><BR/>i feel filmmakers should never make films with the intention of spreading a message or teaching people anything. once you choose to try and "educate" people, then you're inevitably putting yourself on a moral high ground. then you become like a politician pushing an agenda or a propagandist trying to influence people's thoughts.<BR/><BR/>filmmakers should make films becos they have something to say. that's all. for example, David O. Russell wanted to show the American govt's selfishness and injustice in the first Gulf War and how the only real cost of war is human lives. so he made Three Kings. or Spike Lee wanted to show the incongruity and the myopic exaggerations of racism, so he made Do The Right Thing.<BR/><BR/>the best films in the world do not impose their views on anyone. rather, they leave it to the audience to decide. all films are just the opinions of its makers. subjective. you cannot learn anything truly substantial from films. after all, fiction films are just that - fiction.<BR/><BR/>i agree with Alfred Hitchcock when he said "it's only a film", although he may have said that to be sarcastic. but there's truth in that phrase.<BR/><BR/>it's only a film.Allan Koay 郭少樺https://www.blogger.com/profile/06520221332029467739noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15078041.post-1131501883769643182005-11-09T10:04:00.000+08:002005-11-09T10:04:00.000+08:00hello all!most important question is WHAT DOES IT ...hello all!<BR/><BR/>most important question is WHAT DOES IT TAKE TO PRODUCE ART THAT'S APPEAL TO MASSES? (or in this case malay mainstream market)..<BR/><BR/>takkan selama2nya kita nak tgk bdk2 AF tu berlakon Gerak Khas 4-9 atau cerita2 lawak (tak lawak sebenarnye) slapstik..<BR/><BR/>i watched Salon and it's OK lah.. although it's not deep n doesn't teach me "yet another thing about love", i love the concept and cinematography etc..yang penting sekali, it's fresh..sgt suka deco bilik ezra!! =D<BR/><BR/>psl cencorship, i don't really know what to comment.. really dissapointed when the banned films aired in Astro a year or 2 later.. then what's the function of banning in the 1st place really?<BR/><BR/>btw, abg afdlin.. u rock my socks!<BR/><BR/>mucho <3.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com